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I have many TD's you can look at, might give you some inspiration. Your map isn't totally unique, but I can tell it will be much better as time passes. And mb, don't hate lol.
Test Results #1: Plays: 6
Things I liked:
1. Quickbuild is nice.
2. The cooldown on the first tier "send spawns" were balanced nicely.*
3. I love the mass units in the middle, even though they create a command lag.**
4. I really liked the uniqueness of the units and spells, particularly the builder item/spells.***
Things I would look at:
1. Depressing Light Scheme: It is set at night, makes the game play stuffy. Hard to grip the terrain. I know you don't like flashy terrain (reason I deleted all the lava crags off the hero spawn area on Lazerus TD)... But gloomy is as annoying, if not more. Vividness is a fun booster.
2. Blink Builder: Going outside the build area is somewhat frustrating having my builder blink away. Please use pathing blockers.
3. Tower Icons: Please put the towers in order (in according to gold cost) and make some distinction between common and "race" towers.
4. Second Tier Send Unit Icons: Please "exponentialize" the type and cost of summons. As in tier one, all the units that cost gold at the bottom.
5. Summons Macro: First you cant select a group of varying units, only a group of the same unit type. Second, make the rally spot to the middle of the summon area so when you train a unit, it isnt overshadowed by the summon building. It is hard to see and select summons against the building.
6. Summons: Make armor and damage type show on the send icon. Make all units armor and attack type balanced.
7. Linear Gameplay: I felt as tho I had to fallow a "path" while playing. Like there was too much of a price gap between common towers, tier one, tier two ect... making it to where a person couldn't choose an alternative. You basically 'have' to mass tier one at least 3 or four towers because there aren't enough upgrades for the tower. You can also just mass the common tower and have no leaks, making the race useless.
8. *Summon Tiers CD: First tier unit CD was perfect. Second tier I was having to skip around to all the units, macroing all my time on sending, just to spend all the lumber I had (see suggestion #13).
9. Summon Tiers: Make three or four please!
10. **Command lagg: You would have to go through your entire system to fix this and the rebalance the whole thing again... (making one unit equal the value of three) hard stuff.
11. Unit Blocking: Your td spawn get caught up alot in the game. Seems the last few units of a lot of rounds are backtracking through the maze I built. This is due to them having too large of a pathing. I can't get the WE to recognize a value smaller then .01 collision size but then again I use mass units and therefor .01 would be substantial for your spawns.
12. ***Builder Item/Spells: Nice but under priced or rather too much lumber. Everyone in the game could use every spell, every round (see suggestion #13).
13. Way too much Lumber and not enough Gold*~*~*:
This was my biggest problem with the map. At one point my team stopped building and we were just sending. The TD was a mute point (making it a 'send' map?). We made it to the very end of the game that way and then had to go by base totals to decide a winner (BTW I think any imbalance of teams makes this function produce false victory).
I realize you made lumber the income but whoa! I had so much lumber that I couldn't spend it all. Making a 3rd tier could help spend ratio.
There is not enough gold in the game. I suggest giving summon spawns give a gold bounty, making a person who sends more likely to get gold. Also split all the income given to the comp player of that team every round. Another more complicated but decisive idea is to provide send 'points'. For every (x)units killed a send point is earned.
The builders spells were also under priced or under cooldown"ed".
*~*~*: This caused a rift between the two game types (td/sending[Castle Fight style]).
I love testing concept balance, I think I am really good at it. Everyone of my games is a concept hybrid, but enough about me.
If at any point a person can quit playing one part of that game cause thay can win by over compensating another part of that game is IMBA (case: Legion TD 1.2 you could op lumber income and not even build).
Hope this helped.
EDIT: Just realized how you have to trade your lumber for gold. Hmm, in my opinion, somehow rewrite your values so you don't have to trade to get adequate gold to play the td, or better yet have to by lumber.
Thanks for the replies, I'll definitely re-read through your comments next time I really sit down to patch the game.
I really like this idea. But have it only like 1 gold a unit, otherwise you will be overloaded with gold.
After my further testing this map does not seem to work at all on Mac OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard. It does work under windows. It would be nice if you could fix it to work on OSX, but I currently get around it by using bootcamp.
most likely ill be repurposing summons in terms that they will be limited to ~15 a round, and they will be stronger/cost more and the cost of each summon vs. it's income will be a bit more closer to the 2:1 ratio it is now for grunts/wolfs, as opposed to the 33:2 that t2 endgame is.
Cordo, thats too bad. I wish it was fixable easily.
ST, there are workarounds to solve command lag other than just decreasing the number of units, if you're interested I can give you some tips.
could you teach me how to make the custom loading screen?
lazurs, you can buy gold with lumber you moron... lumber income is just fine
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Whoa! Do not call good people morons! Or, just don't say it in such an offensive way.
First off learn to spell, second off, learn to capitalize, third off, don't call someone smarter then you a moron. Lazerus has a point, some people tend to not buy gold so that their income doesn't plummet, or because they are just dumb. Help the newbies!
Sure meca, let me know.
I should have 1.10 ready by April 15. (If you haven't noticed, monthly updates =P)
What I meant was that you shouldn't have to buy your gold with lumber. As in it is redundant.
I should have the 1.1 release soon, mostly balance changes.
I got a Suggestion if your gonna make a new map:You should make another option in the Tier 1,2 and Ultimate where he/she can pick what kind of tower he/she wants to build.
its a nice dynamic kind of td, realy nice and brings fun + stretegic possibillitys :) like it
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Thank you sir, I'm uploading a new version right now.